Tuesday, February 5, 2008

How Do You Make Fish Not Stick To The Pan

Inidia Discussion: recognition of Israel

P. wrote on 05/02/2008 08:59 clock: "recognition of the right of each state to exist is in my opinion, the basic preconditions for peace negotiations What should be negotiated. if both would be mutually deny this? "

@ Po, there is little public the reinsurance there, come on, how the donor money is used and why, for example, the EU can avoid self-organized distribution, but to suggest is that a) otherwise still difficult, would be the political structures to influence positively, b) it would undermine democratic moments when would not cooperate with the elected structures.

But let the alternative scenario, you'd be for the distribution of aid meant for the civilian population and absolute responsibility to ensure that terrorists are not the beneficiaries, ... - Already hard to imagine enough, but even then it would by no means ensures that the terrorism is the basis would be withdrawn, because a) he is nourished not from noodles and medicines, but from politically unresolved problems, b) it would be grad mal "international division of labor", if the EU is purchasing the drugs, while Iran Russia backs the Kalashnikovs worried. So it is important that EU, U.S. and other global powers to civilize her Konkurrenzspielchen other negotiating tables.

Again for the recognition problem: is for you as well as fix to me that the existence of Israel's legal claim is legitimized by UN resolutions?

for the destruction of Israel itself is therefore irrelevant whether the individual states, organizations, individuals will be denied, for they too are bound by the decisions of the United Nations could then possibly there to press for revision.
they desire no revision, but tried it with war and terrorism today, so this regard it is simply "Outlaws".

But because of the criminals we do not throw the criminal law on board, but have it just for the purpose of combating crime. The criminal law only insofar as we debated when we have the impression that it was too full of holes, or we look to prevention and enforcement of appropriate resources.
other but in international affairs, for which there is but the first signs of Rechtsförmigkeit, such as the International Criminal Court, but far too little and still less codifying prevention and enforcement agents.

The required development process is blocked by U.S. and Israel only because because they rely solely on its military power, although it appears that that the opposing force at best, relocated to terrorism, after the political violence has achieved maximum = war in his / her potential for destruction.

accepted time, my wish scenario would take place, then came back the people and the front men of the Middle East conflict before the investigators and then to court.
order to compare it with horizons of experience, could it be that find themselves two rival mafia gangs because of crimes perpetrated against each other in the same process, two organizations within the meaning without any right to claim recognition - by law or a mafia gang, together with a "Recognized" Ltd, which supplied the unlawful slaughter - or both "recognized" public companies that compete in its competition law - or only one of the sides would have behaved illegally, ...
But all their mutual appreciation (recognition) would be perfect for any reasonable court irrelevant. The dispute would be settled, would be convicted of illegal activity, lack of acknowledgment would be replaced by court order, etc.

They are for me as a completely ordinary civilian matters, including dissatisfaction, if my right is disregarded, but it is even better, the bad pill to swallow as each pack grenades under the chairs.

But such Rechtsförmigkeit in international relations is under-developed and the parties of the Middle East conflict keep almost equally to non-partisan decision, since to them the non-partisan credibility and seems often enough is disingenuous, the immediate parties to the dispute an even greater obligation, the dispute arises bilaterally enclosed. involve
Since many states in the background their own interests, so a lot of negotiating tables necessary.
And that may / may be opened to mutual respect and recognition = missing value estimation accuracy be a prior condition, especially the lack of recognition is the fundamental reason of their conflict.

And again: Peace is made with the enemy as possible by negotiation on all disputed issues, including the lack of recognition, while you ask the actors in the Middle East only to the negotiating table when they have solved the main problem.

That's the difference between your and my political thinking. You is the result of a "precondition", while I was negotiating motive at best.

-msr->> discussion

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